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Hi Tommy,

My post was mainly speaking to whether they believe they are right or not. And if they do, then they should do all they can to reduce their "footprint", not merely what's convenient for them to do. After all, the only meaningful way to reduce human industrial CO2 output is to stop all such industrial activity immediately. Some Green leaders want this, at least that's what they've said in the past. They really DON'T want it because it would mean the end of the civilization they depend on.

I think the message is out, can't imagine how much more it can be pounded into people's heads. So that premise really doesn't fly with me (not that I matter or anything ;)).

The problem with "I don't have to give up anything because I'm promoting my cause" premise is that it creates an elitist class of those who don't have to practice what they preach. More haves and have nots.

I'm sure there are some who live what they believe, but is it practical for most people to do this? You can spend most of every day preparing vegetable oil for car fuel, tending your organic garden, milking your own cows and goats, but where do you earn money to support your family?